Bill Swindell’s new podcast, “Drinking Stories,” peels back the veneer of the wine, beer, spirits and cider industries.

In the second episode, Bill speaks with brewers at the recent RateBeer awards ceremony and festival on the state of the craft beer industry in the aftermath of major deals such as Heineken International partnering with Lagunitas Brewing Co.

Bill talks to the brewers and owners of Hill Farmstead Brewery, de Garde Brewing, Toppling Goliath Brewing Co., and Moonlight Brewing Co. for their thoughts and what to expect next.

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